An interview with
Neil Rudenstine Reg Tweedy talks with Harvards president about the universitys direction Sometimes they ask me the people who ask me things, sometimes how I get the closer-than-God, behind-the-scenes whatever I get. Interviews. Thats what I get. Interviews. With starlets, gambling kingpins, horse trainers and the like. (The interview with Eddie Arcaro remains the most often asked about.) Usually the story of how I secure an interview is every bit as interesting as the interview itself. This is no exception. Ever since arriving in the States, Id been wanting to interview Neil Rudenstine, the president of Harvard University, the king of American academia and (from what they tell me) no mean fry-cook either. But as my gift boxes of kippers continued to be sent back unopened, I despaired of ever grilling the legendary kickboxer. But all that changed when I drew a jack to an inside straight at the weekly journalists poker game and found Newsweek correspondent Michael Isikoff pleading with me not to take his pacemaker. He still owed Matt Drudge nearly $20,000 from their wager on last years Americas Cup, so cash was not an option. How was he to pay? All was resolved when I learned that Isikoff had secured an interview with Rudenstine. Two weeks later, on a chilly Monday morning, it was I who sat in the oak-paneled office of Harvards president, waiting to interview him for the Weekly Week. Nearly an hour late, Rudenstine finally dashed in looking flustered and confused. He slammed the door behind him and stood panting against the wall. Clad in a dark brown trenchcoat and wearing a strange magenta wig, he seemed out of sorts, and when he withdrew a small knife from his left boot and began cutting down all the curtains "in case we need to leave in a hurry" I suggested that it perhaps would be more convenient if we conducted the interview another time. "No!" he shouted, and dropped to the floor, his hands over his head. I assured him that I was more than happy to conduct the interview then and there, and eventually helped him to his feet. "Ill be fine," he assured me as he got up. "Just give me a minute." He proceeded to check every inch of the room for "suspicious markings" and asked this interviewer for three separate proofs of identification. After I had convinced him that I was, in fact, Reg Tweedy (would that it were always so difficult), he began to brush his chair with a strange-smelling rag which, he assured me, was "only a disinfectant." Finally, he sat down. He took out a tin of sardines and what looked like a small amount of plastic explosives. I decided to begin the interview.
Weekly Week: First of all, Id just like to thank you for agreeing to talk to us. Its reassuring to know that the president of a college such as Harvard is so accessible. Rudenstine: [Startled] Harvard?!? Yes sir: Harvard. In Cambridge. Oh, right. Sorry, its just been one of those mornings. [Long pause. Squints] Did you ever work for the Massad? No sir. If we could just talk about Harvard Right. [Another long pause] Harvard. Harvard University. [Long pause] Sure. We can talk about that. Why the hell not. Well, what this place needs is a few new departments. Give us some size. Best college in the land. Rival whats the name of that place with all the big arches? Oxford? No, no where they had all those jugglers Damn it Sir [Mumbling] They used to call the first-years "serfs." You mentioned new departments [Startled] What? Sir, the new departments Harvard University 1998? Oh, right. 1998. Yes, new departments. Diversity, you know. Well, its interesting you say that, because a lot of students feel colleges today are trying to provide too many departments. They feel that its sacrificing depth for breadth. They do? Yes. They feel that we need to concentrate on only a few departments instead of trying to provide something for everyone. Really? [Long pause] Do you have any of their names? Uh, no Because if theres one thing that will not be tolerated in this regime, its malcontents. Im sorry? You people have got to learn to respect your commanding officers. No more toeing the line. No more insubordination. Are you saying that youre going to punish people who disagree with you? Lets just say that I dont forget my enemies. But sir, isnt that sort of attitude a bit anti-intellectual? [Irritated] Im not here to quibble over semantics. But surely if you punish Next question. But sir [Angry] I said next question. Do you want to be the first person to make The List? No sir. Okay, um, what do you think of a core curriculum? Not much. Do you mean you dont think its a good idea, or I mean I havent thought about much. Why, what do you think about it? Well, if you really want to know, I think a lot of students leave here lacking a lot of basic knowledge. Hmm. Like knife fighting? Well, no, not exactly. I was thinking more of world history Well, Im afraid Im going to have to disagree with you there. If theres one thing I learned in Da Nang it was that the dialectic will eventually account for the ignorance of the lumpenproletariat. I see. [Pause] So you oppose a core curriculum? I oppose any rhetoric that cant account for the possibility of its own unraveling. Is that a yes? I dont think Im prepared to reduce it to those terms. You mentioned Vietnam earlier [Angry] Who told you that? Well sir, you just said [Eyes narrowed] Listen here, son, I think we both know what youre trying to do. We do? Double blind. Flush out the spooks. Strangle em with their own piano wire, so to speak. I have no idea what youre talking about I know the routine. No food. No water. No sleep. Sensory deprivation. Start hallucinating maybe. Then, bam hit em with all the questions. "Where did you find an entrance? What agency do you report to? Where did you get the compound bow of human bones?" Its an old game, son. I really have no idea what youre talking about Charlie used to try it all the time. I swear, kid, cross me now, youll be the first to go when the revolution comes. The revolution? The people of this city are tired of academic oppression. Their time will come. What do you mean by "academic oppression?" Come on! Look around! What do you see? Bookstores. Coffee shops. Cafes. Universities. I mean, do you have any idea what the ration of bookstores to strip clubs is in Cambridge? No. Do you? Lets just say Ive done some research. And I know that its getting harder and harder for an honest, entrepreneuring young pornographer to make it in this town. I dont think I know what you mean No, you wouldnt. [Long pause. Moving closer and whispering] I killed Laura Palmer. [Startled] What?! Ha-ha, nothing. Nothing at all. What did you say? [Whispering again] The dwarf in the little room told me to do it. Sir, are you all right? Sure, sure, Im fine. [Pause] Actually, excuse me for a moment. (At this point President Rudenstine disappeared into my bathroom. He returned several minutes later, looking visibly refreshed. Upon close inspection, I noticed that he was wearing womens stockings.) Where were we? Well, we were talking about the core curriculum. Sort of. I see. [Long pause] Well, you know, the thing about me is that Ive got a tremendous penis. Really? Yeah: its just its huge. I dont know what else to say. Going back to what youd said about academic oppression I mean, it frightens people, you know. Uh-huh. Really, its just Its just really, really big. Thats interesting. Well, I dont know why I brought that up. You were saying that you thought there were too many bookstores here. I just thought people might like to know their president is, you know, hung like a horse. Thank you. No problem. So do you favor getting rid of some of these bookstores? Ill tell you what Id like to get rid of ... these singing groups. Really? I hear that theres a three to one ratio between students and singing groups on this college. Three to one! Jesus, what if we made some of those singers dig trenches or something. Give em something constructive to do with their time. Get em out there bustin rocks. Well, I doubt people would try if they had to do manual labor to be part of one of those groups. So make tryouts mandatory. Like they used to have under ... what was that guys name with the big farms and the hat Stalin. Yeah, Stalin. I bet he didnt tolerate a lot of singing when he was around. That sounds sort of fascist, sir. It does? Well, comparing yourself with Stalin Well, I mean, Im not a big fan of Stalin or anything. He wasnt my main influence in life. Who were they? Oh, the usual people. My parents, Gandhi, Houdini, Howard Hughes ... How was Houdini an influence on your life? Did you know he used to hide things in his rectum? Well, no, I wasnt aware Brilliant, brilliant man. How about Howard Hughes? I mean, can you imagine how much fun he would have been at a dinner party? Um. Of course its all old hat by now. But rectal magic was pretty cutting edge back then. And this influenced you? Sure, sure. I remember when I was younger, a couple of friends of mine and I decided itd be really fun to try and make some money smuggling heroin over here from Turkey. So, you know, we went over there never been out of the U.S., and all, you know, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed and spent all of the money our parents had given us to live there on heroin. Uh-hum. Stuff was awful black tar, some of the worst smack youd ever want to do. But you know, we were young and all Anyway, thats how we got it back into the states the old Houdini bit. Whatd you do with it once you got it back over here? Oh, we sold it around school. Made a few bucks. Thats how I met my wife, you know. She wanted to score a little H and some guy told her I was a big mover on campus, and you know, things just went from there. Those were the days. So do you condone drug use among students? Well son, times have changed. You just never know what goes into the stuff you get these days. Its not always worth the risk anymore. [Pause] I guess. Well, thank you, sir, I think that about concludes this interview. Really? [Long pause] Well, I think it went pretty well. Um, yes sir. Hey, can I ask you a question? Sure, sure. Do the kids today still listen to Quarterflash? Uh ... yes. Rockin good news. |